Finally some one has put something on the site even if it is the guy who runs it well done Paul. So much for Australian printmakers wanting to be social hahahaha. I mean you all beg us years ago to put up an interactive site so you could chat and relate ideas etc about printmaking well ok its here so where are you all. Hiding away spending heaps of money on entering printmaking prizes no doubt. Well anyway Roger Butler has his first part of his 3 part 200 years of Australian printmaking history out now. Interesting pic Paul is it about the rising seas and the crumbaling chiffs of the coast line hahahah warch out baby boomers your houses could be disapearing very soon esp any one in Byron Bay. . -Michael Florrimelll - 7/18/2007 Reply

Michael, I wonder if social phobia and printmaking-climate change will be reflected in part three of the 200 years of Australian printmaking history. Will check it out. Paul, there are many people globally whom have never seen the sea, if they are online I'm sure they would appreciate your water movements photo and question if you made it up or if it is a real reflection of the sea. What is that stuff floating on the surface of the water? . -Ben Dover - 7/26/2007 Reply

Hey Ben part three on the presses now I hope, need it before starting PHD next year, good to hear someone has done all the research on Australian printmaking for us all. Would also be good if artists could write some interesting articales on our web site. . -Michael Florrimell - 7/27/2007 Reply

People don't look. . -Rob - 7/22/2007 Reply

Rob, maybe they do look but just don't see. . -Ben Dover - 7/26/2007 Reply

People look they only see what they want this is why we have artists and designers to put visual work out there to the public. There is so much visual information out there in 2007 maybe to much maybe not enough the main problem is how to see the different visual laugages other than media which is in constant loop in public and transmitted areas. If you are prepared to stand out side the box you'll find heaps of great visual laugage. So just start looking and you will find. . -Michael Florrimell - 8/4/2007 Reply

PS, I really like this work. Nothing political - image for image's sake! Ferns are wonderful plants - delicate and need specific conditions to grow (not just survive). What type of camera did you use? The image is very crisp and clear in detail. I need to get a new camera for this reason. The work you have done on the 'new' look site is excellent. Thanks. I'm working on a new print called "Thanks" as a thanks to yourself and other EPNPM team players for all your hard, consistant and ongoing efforts and achievements. Thanks. Have you done all of your 2004 Xmas shopping yet? Always so much to think about - especially what's for Xmas lunch and how much to spend. Maybe Xmas day should become a national day of fasting as a slap in the face to capitalism and consumerism. . -Z Reply

Cool ferns, cool things down, every walked in a fern forest very cool. Very sharp well produced work, no messing around straight to the point clear meaning about the beauty of the natural world. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Fern forests are one of my enjoyable environments to walk through. The giant man-fern forests in Tasmania are awesome. Did you know ferns make sounds? . -Z Reply

Think a moment about "nothing political". Nature photography is very political - for example Peter Dombrovski's "Rock Island Bend". Just because your audience isn't clouted round the head doesn't mean there isn't a potent political message. . -Paul Somerset Reply

True, that's another way of looking at it. . -Z Reply

Nature is political thats right Paul. And photographs of the nature in its grand'e state has been used by every one from Green Peace to the wilderness society of Australia, both in poster form and video and film. Also many great artists have also used nature as a inspiration to the masses, who could forget the grand paintings of the the romantics and the realists from 2 century's ago. Showing nature in photographic form is a must as so little of the city dwellers of Sydney ever see. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Seeing or not seeing is not an issue, it is a way of seeing. People who live amongst pristine wilderness are probably less likley to idolise it than city dwellers. Particularly if their livleyhood is threatened. . -Paul Somerset Reply

Yes indeed far too many 'greenies' fail to realise that not everyone shares their interpretation of the natural wilderness. Most people prefer shopping malls and resorts. . -Rob Reply

That's because so many people are deluded.Good work Paul,for me the photo reinforces why being a naturalist makes sense.Definately political. . -Chresee - 1/3/2007 Reply

I noticed over the last 2 days all around the city of Melb the corps are back driving their big 4 wheel drives around, heating everything back up, like hey there is no worry's about climate change. To be political in the naturalist sense is to get out of the car walk, ride a bike, buy a water tank, put solar energy into use etc etc etc. It's not a political thing as far someone will decide for you it's an individual thing where everyone world wide must participate in. Individuals have to stop blaming politicains, people power only works if the people are really going to change things. So far I don't see much of this happening in the real sence. But it is getting better. There is no doubt the drought has opened peoples minds a little, but what really gets me are the individuals who drive their cars around the corner to pick up a burger from Macka's now this sort of behavior should be banned, its like a double dose of pollution in one. . -Michael Florrimell - 2/1/2007 Reply

OHHH come on Paul its you dressed up as our national hero. Imagine if Ned Kelly had of been an organic solar farmer now would we be living a different life. Still if he had of hung around cloths lines he wouldnt have got into so much trouble either. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

So what kind of a nation is this that thinks someone with a cardboard box on their head is a national hero. And its not me, note the skin colour on the arms. I am further down the Lightfoot civilisation spectrum than that. . -Paul Somerset Reply

It all makes perfect sence to me. If you just finished washing and hanging out your armour to dry then why bother putting it into a basket to take it inside to iron. Just put it straight on! . -Z Reply

I don't think the commentators are taking this matter seriously enough. What is it about this figure that so captivates Australians? . -Paul Somerset Reply

Australian myths are far removed from the reality. Are we egalitarian? do we believe in the 'fair go'? I suspect Xavier Herbert is correct, this is a nation of prision officers. . -Rob Lutter Reply

Myths and heroes lurk in our psyche and metabolise in the most interesting forms through art. The cardboard boxes and the leisurely stance create a non-threatening character who seems to enjoy his '15 minutes of fame' pose. I suspect that the real Ned would have enjoyed it also if he had known had infamous he would become. I really like the messages that this print is conveying in respect to Australian law, myths, perceptions and history. Thanks Paul. . -MTW Reply

He may look relaxed but as soon as he saw I had spotted him he bolted into the undergrowth. I was up early photographing spiders and I looked up to see him watching me. I snapped this one shot which was the last frame 36 and by the time I managed to change films he had dissapeared. I looked for traces of his flight but could find no sign. . -Paul Somerset Reply

Paul, the little blighters are fast are they? . -Z Reply

Very pretty and everything, but is that enough? . -Rob Lutter Reply

Paul, This must be one of those one in a million shots. I do like this photo. Where did you take it? was it Myall Lakes in NSW? The lighting was just right. . -Warren Reply

Landscape a big winner in 2005 folks cheek the voting pages on our web site there is still time to vote. Paul is the sky really that blue a dusk. That tree would make a great hamick support haaaa lazy days in Spain in a hamick. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

The Australian sky is really really blue and totally seemless. I spent ages trying to photograph the way the eucalypts stand against it, without much success. The sky is the Australian landscapes redeeming feature of course the rest is totally dull, miles of low higgledy piggledy hills covered in scraggley forest that looks like it has been logged over already with the odd mucky little stagnant creek optimistically named such and such river. No wonder Tim Low has so much trouble understanding the idea of grand wilderness - see 'The New Nature' . -Paul Somerset Reply

You should see the hill and mountains of granada hundreds of Kilometres of olive trees and notheing else in sight. If you canīt eat it donīt grow it seems to be the philos here. Donīt worry folks Australian bush is doing ok when you put it up against the european. But thats no reason to rip it all out. Leave the forest alone and that goes for you yep you over there take it easy, and get out there and start planting now . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Most of Europe was deforested prior to the 20th century. A fact that Bjorn Lomborg seems to have twisted in 'The Skeptical Environmentalist' to prove that deforestation is not a problem, or if it is it can be solved by the unfettered operation of markets. I think the Grand Wilderness ideal originates in the US rather than Europe. . -Paul Somerset Reply

Yep watched ROMA the other night Faline the film director 1960s made. The madness of the car had long ago wiped the face of italy out even then. Like the futurist dream of speed on a moter bike. Wow that guy was making some wild movies, the sence in which the camera is mounted on a truck in a rain storm in the middle of a traffic jam is brillant. Yep folks the only forest you are going to be stuck in is the M4 traffic jam, and hey we deserve it for not getting out of our cars. Come on Sydney get on ya bike or youīll end up like Valencia 4 cars deep out side the state school picking up your kids . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Yep I can relate to that-kinda like streaking down a main road n oops in the dream ya wake up an realize ya forgot ya clothes.For real,waddya do/yep we need more trees! . -Valkyrie Reply

PS, Did you skim any stones/rocks on the surface of the water after you took this photo or did you keep it flat and calm (the still-pond theory/approach to problem solving employed by all Australian government employee's to keep and remain in their fat-cat paid jobs - say nothing, do nothing, make no ripples, make no waves)? Wonderful blue tones! . -Z Reply

Thank you for the relief in road kill. This rolling landscape is easy on the mind and heavy on the philosophy of photo/art leaving much to imagine. Please mail more as my mind needs soothing in 2003. To much War Hype in 2002, lets give peace a chance like it said on the harbour bridge PEACE. . -M Florrimell Reply

Hey Paul, Where are the trees, the birds, the little animals, the insects and the frogs? Can't believe how similar this image is to some I have just taken in Tasmania. Where is this raped and pillaged landscape? . -M/Z Reply

There are a few cattle in the picture which you can see on each side if you check out the enlargement. The landscape is in the region of Gloucester. I never looked at it as raped or pillaged - what do you think the original flora and fauna might have been. . -Paul Somerset Reply

Paul, I don't know much about this part of the world. . -M/Z Reply

On critic is soothed the other is disturbed. I expect the division of the image into perfect thirds, the organic lines and square format are soothing. . -Rob Lutter Reply

The trouble with critics is they always want to stir up the emotions of the masses. So basically the'll forget why they are even making comments on the particular work and suggest oppisition to the work in good or bad terms. One learns not to take much notice of critics. Each to their own. I still find this image very relaxing in 2007. . -Michael Florrimell - 2/1/2007 Reply

I like it . John Bull Reply

Very cute . -Harry Horse Reply

What does cute mean . -John Bull Reply

'Cute', one of those words like 'nice'. I don't think they are genuine 'scrub-bush pigs' and I would would need a DNA test for 'caffine aroma wrist syndrome' but my guess is that they might be laying land-mines, planting trees or hunting for witchity-grubs prior to a fishing trip. You decide. . -Michael Zschech - 8/15/2006 Reply

Like the shot real background, needs a few trees though. I like the idea of not knowing where these two old boys fit into the sceme of social boundry's. Ha Ha they look country enough what are they digging for gold. Hey thats what they are gold diggers, come in from the city to look for real gold. Did any one see the show on ABC last night about the guy who produces shit as art and tatoos pigs. Sells the shit and the pig skins to art dealers mostly in the USA. The reasons of realistic art do question our ideals as humans. Maybe the virtual world won't be enough maybe we like killing and shitting to much, well according to the artists and the curator of that UK art show anyway. Keep digging guy's there just might be gold in those hills. . -Michael Florrimell - 8/16/2006 Reply

Michael F, yes, saw the pig tatooing show. I felt sorry for the pigs, the pain of being tatooed even though drugged, but then killed for their skin/hide to be stretched like canvas on a frame. I must do that print soon titled: "Outdeal the commercial art (?) dealer" but I guess it's already been done by the wholistic extistence of EPPM. It has been suggested to me that this image could be 'stronger' if the models were naked. . -Michael Zschech - 8/16/2006 Reply

I agree the models should off been naked, more green and more at nature with the farm. I know who they are now and you guessed city boy's pretending to be country lads. Although one of them did live in happy valley for a few years which is very remote. The thing with the pigs was the artist was I hope pointing out the factor that pigs die every day for human consumption anyway. The reality ART the artist was showing - talking about is a fact of life, we kill and shit every day. In reproducing shit through a machine and selling it back to art curators and collectors the artist was showing the long lost lust for human natural activity's. I mean what sort off natural live does a city dweller have anyway. Concrete, cars, morgages, and an urge to consume consume consume. It also comes down to artists signature as far as collectors and curators are concerned thats why they buy it. OHH yeh the idea or conception hahahahaha it seems to be a big part of being an artist in curatorial circles. . -Michael Florrimell - 8/17/2006 Reply

They aren't models though they are real people and it is not a staged photograph. Michael F's statement says so much about the way 21st centuary people interpret the world. Welcome to the simulacra. Anyone noticed the right wingers and pro Israeli crowd denying the reality of the images of the death and destruction Lebanon. . -Paul Somerset - 8/18/2006 Reply

Yes, Paul, I have, I have an image/print on the wall at the moment which was made at the begining of the invasion of St. Lebo. by the Zionists and their supporters. I haven't uploaded it because of the current OZ "Sedition Laws", (jail for up to 7 years) currently being monitored by NAVA, see their current website issue through "Google Search" engine. Does EPPM want to see this image? . -Michael Zschech - 8/18/2006 Reply

So a photo of two blokes in a paddock leads us to the anti sedition laws. In the recently adopted EPPM constitution we state a committment to encouraging artists to produce work that is relevant to peoples lives. I suppose in Australia that translates as opposition to havving our artists pissing about with bougeoius explorations of the finer ramifications of French existentialist philosophy. Bring on the sedition I say. . -Paul Somerset - 8/21/2006 Reply

No french philoshopy going down in my PHD paper. Although I do have a French past. I wonder when the art estabishment are going to have a plystation game made up in which we can argue avante garde art theories. Wonder if EPPM had avante chat on our web site if any of the so called avante would come on line for a chat. Keep the pastrol photos coming. . -Michael Florrimell - 8/21/2006 Reply

Yes it would be a Toyota wouldn't it . -Paul - 11/26/2008 Reply

Yeap the old Toyota everyone must of had one of them in their lives at some point the one I had got stolen must of been a great car. The 3 Celica's however were all lemons. . -Michael Florrimell - 11/27/2008 Reply

Hi Paul, a great photo and trick raincoat. Is this image from near the Wanganui Community which I think spreads from Wanganui City, north west to Ball Road on the New Plymouth side of Patea, south west to Bulls and north to Taumaranui, including National Park, Ratahei? . -Michael Zschech - 12/1/2008 Reply

Hi Michael, Hi Paul and yep love the flick. Night time in NZ looks peaceful enough to light up some sparkles in the main street. Hope to get there one day for a large bike ride around the country. Or maybe a down hill ride. . -Michael Florrimell - 12/2/2008 Reply

In the general area of Wanganui about 2 hours drive. Kind of quiet that night but plenty of broken beer bottle glass around from other less peaceful nights. . -Paul Somerset - 12/11/2008 Reply

Don't believe the hype Michael, NZ is definatly not 100% green, about 1% max. It is surely some kind of tragic accident that such a place should end up in the guardianship of such a bunch of dopy destructive zombies. Tourism is just the latest resource that the Kiwis have discovered and they are now in the process of trashing it. DO NOT holiday in New Zealand. You will be ripped off for sure. . -Rewi Alley - 12/11/2008 Reply

Hey Paul where are you NZ. I have been working on the cat for the solander will send images and statements soon. taken some time. Some one is doing the corrections this weekend and i should have a power point made by late next week. be good to see the stuff up on site. . -Michael florrimell - 3/3/2010 Reply