I liked this image as I have often sat on Newcastle beach watching the waves roll in would be great to have a couch to sit yes the way to go. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

The dissolution of boundaries merging into a unified whole contributes not only to the metonymical contaction of space but to the autonomous identity between geographical terrain, viz,urban and rural sprawls, in which is further extended the depiction of the flaneur, an alienated being roaming aimlessly through the margins seeking out his own reflection in the narcissist mirror of ocean that will in the final analysis drown him. ~Ayana Noble Queensland, Australia ayana@artsconnect.com.au . -Ayana Reply . -Ayana Reply

How much would one of those units cost? . -Mic Reply

Realestate in Australia is number one on the minds of everyone. Ownership is the word in 2002 according to the new Labour. Beach front very nice thank you, yes love is realestate. Thing I like about this print is the chair sitting outside in the public area, this is what we should all be doing improving our public areas so we can all have a fine time. Ownership who needs it you can't take it when you die. . -Ken Clark Reply

Chris, Are you selling the grassy area in the foreground of your art work? If so, to whom and what development is planned for the site? Good art image. . -Michael Zschech Reply

I am interested in the ocean as realestate who do I contact, hello is there any one selling ocean space a surf beach would be good then I could charge surfers money to surf. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, you can put in a bid for the ocean; I'll put in a bid for the ocean bed floor and rent the use of the space to you. Should we go through L.(Ly**g)J.(J*w*)Hooker (P*o*i*u*e)? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Forget realestate agents their rip of merchants. They put on %20 to all they sell try swimming without paying inthe ocean while you still can. I think they want to charge at bondi beach now. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, I have yet to have one positive experience when dealing with a real estate agent. Yes, the syringe raked areas are definately more popular than non-raked syringe areas for most beached, white whales to lie and breach air on. . -Michael Zschech Reply

The dissolution of boundaries merging into a unified whole contributes not only to the metonymical contaction of space but to the autonomous identity between geographical terrain, viz,urban and rural sprawls, in which is further extended the depiction of the flaneur, an alienated being roaming aimlessly through the margins seeking out his own reflection in the narcissist mirror of ocean that will in the final analysis drown him. ~Ayana Noble Queensland, Australia ayana@artsconnect.com.au . -Ayana Reply

Perfectly accurate expression if I must say so my self. . -Maggie Flowers, S.A. Reply

Lovvvve your writing stlye anya (ayana?) . -Don - 10/14/2006 Reply

Hi Don, Thank you. Appreciated..Ayana . -Ayana - 10/29/2006 Reply

stunning pictures :d love em much perspective.. . -Bec - 5/16/2007 Reply

Good morning is a yellow wood cut print. Its mark making is fast and to the point, lots going on in the bright morning sun light of this work. Yes waking up on a sunny morning early and going for a morning walk or surf is love for sure. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Yapha, One colour can say so much at times and you have been able to achieve this in your art work. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Yellow is the colour for looking for butter under the chin. Hold a yellow flower under your chin and see if it turns yellow. . -Julie Reply

Julie. I've tried the butter under the chin sceen, but the yellow frangapannies growing in my communial back garden are wonderful to smell, touch, see and feel. If I listen to their sounds (?) while floating in a bowl of water in my home, I can hear them saying, what you have just commmented on. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Yellow is the colour of the yellow submarine in the bettles song sung by Ringo Star. Actually yellow makes me feel kind of sick. . -Julie Reply

Julie, "I'll call you mellow yellow"! Does that kind of yellow make you sick or is it just the Hepititus A, B AND C kinds of yellow that make you sick? . -Michael Zschech Reply

what load of CRAP . -jackie Reply

The senses are both aroused and immortalized in this piece of art, depicting the extension of a postmodernist womb extracting of itself a defined classic that would otherwise be seen to sink into despair. Entranced, it exceeds a terminal exit to the convential wrap of human existence. Ayana Noble ayana@artsconnect.com.au . -Ayana Reply

How blatantly TRUE! . -Rosco Ng Reply

As the theatre curtain falls we say good evening to the sea of soft water rolling past our window. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Dian, That certainly is a Northern Territory red that you have used in your art work. I like how your image says to me "Recreating Creation" and "Observers not Participants". . -Michael Zschech Reply

An emblem of drowning beauty the womb of timelessness divided from the essence of the Mother, remains an unreflective and isolated domain. . -Ayana Noble Reply

wonderful.someone once said that art isn't functioning as art at the moment that/if/when it's being explained.this speaks wonderfully of/4 itself. . -valkyrie Reply

Art functioning as art put this one in the 2 hard basket. Art can't function becouse we don't know what art is. Art History books can try and convince you but you don't have to beleive. As an Artist just do it, explanations can come later. Still it's fun trying to explain. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Yvonne, You have weighed things up well and fairly in this art work. I like the colors you have used. It is easy to want to keep looking at your art work.. . -Michael Zschech Reply

The wright of the matter is equal to te mass of the matter. We must be equl in all respects. . -Julie Reply

Julie, equality as theory or equality as a reality today where some a more equal than others? Equality of balance or equality of control? What about gender equity awareness, access, participation and accountability graphs related to art/printmaking in Australia today. I love to love to see these. Who started the positive discrimination concept anyway? . -Michael Zschech Reply

The arrangment of self a design equated with the absence of liberty masquerading as the other. . -Ayana Noble Reply

The billboard was at fox studios in Sydney. A cooparate banner for a cooparate media fun park. Just felt it needed a word of love. Poor old Rupert to much money but even he needs a little love. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

dear michael can't get a movie made so you have to go 'n make "other" contributions to this strange new australian(little a) film industry-what will i think as i wander down those malls with my dripping ice-cream-will i think? . -gerard morrissey Reply

Uncle Gerard ya getting old and confused wandering around the streets of London looking for a movie to Shoot. All you have to do is get a good producer and a couple of Hollywood actors and bingo heaps of praise and money etc. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Murdoch will be remembered as the great artist of the 21st century. . -Paul Somerset Reply

Murdoch will be remembered as a man who left his country to business else where. Foxs studios is there to make money and entertain the mass. . -John Wood Reply

Murdoch will be rembered as the guy who guests on the Simpsons. He should be Mr Byrnes really. . -Ricky Swallowed Reply

Murdoch will be remembered as the corrupt old maggot he is who printed newspaper articles about people that are not true and made is money on such lies- the cost of human life. He deserves what he gets the cunt . - Reply

Michael, Even Tina Turner ask's the question over, over and over again, "What's love got to do with it"? I think I can hear her singing it right now somewhere! All the buildings are still over there; ideal for a Pet Food Processing Factory to relocate into. This could also create employment for all of our thousands and thousands of inner city "street people". Great contradicting image. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Interesting to see the back lot of Foxs studios closing and being sold off, so more workers could be employed for the making of such great american movies such as star wars matrix etc. Next time your watching one of these movies think about the 1000s of workers who worked 68 hour weeks for a few wee dollars to bring you the slops you require. May be a few real love movies are due and maybe we should make some movies which are about reality not war. . -Michael Florrmell Reply

Michael, Are you asking for a cultural change in some Western mind-sets through calculated themes in the media? Do you think Darth Vader is going to be able to eat slops? More movies on reality? Do you want us all to leave Lala Land? More movies on real love? There are supposedly 16 different groups of love in this written language context. Which one is the real group? . -Michael Zschech Reply

16 forms of love dont know the 16 forms, its up to each individual to choose how they love. My point was about war and love maybe there is a love for war in american culture. Maybe the 2 go hand in hand. Seems like in their movies they have to have a good fight before any romance can take place. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, Yes, you are right, 16 forms of love, how (English/Greek/?) limiting in my comment. Sorry. Of course there are "BILLIONS" of types of love, as there are as many individuals on this and other planets, that have related to each other in some way. My comment and perspective was from,"AGARAPAE (God's Love)THROUGH TO PERSONAL SELF RESPECT. You want to start me on U.S.A. issues? Careful. You want to start me on "Romance" issues, Careful. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Yep self respect can help for a start reading John Kings novel England away at the moment ah la Irvine Welshs prodigy, the trouble with being poor and bored is that self respect is low. This causes less repect for others, of coarse this is a very generalised comment but back to John Kings book which is really about class system in the 2000's and which is really the start of love breaking down. See also George Orwells book down and out in Paris and London. Living with the poor George was able to experience first hand the the life that came with being poor in the early 20th century. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, thank you. You have given me a lot of reading material to research. I certainly can't say I've got nothing to do. . -Michael Zschech Reply

There is plenty to do join the M1 protests you dont have to go to the streets just start looking into whats going on in the world and then start something to counteract. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, explain to me what are these M1 protests about? . -Michael Zschech Reply

May Day protest are about people for people . People against corparate captial greed. Equal societys, equal food distrubution, solar energy, cleaning up the world, saving envoiroments etc. They are world wide protest and can happen any time any place, reclaim the streets is also cool, taking over a street on foot and Bike kicking the cars of the road for a day yeah. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, I often wonderered what the "hidden agendas" of the whistle, blowing cyclists were? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Been interesting to see just how many people riding bikes Paris not good, Barcellona ok, Valencia not good, Bristol very good heaps of people riding bikes. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

its AGAPE you fool . -jacko - 1/12/2007 Reply

Jacko call me a fool and then get a bike and start pedaling because if I catch you I'll use you as my drum skins for my kit. If you are going to be a RUDE BOY then use your real name, ps Im getting good at Doubel Kick drums speed metal hahahahahahaha . -Michael Florrimell - 5/29/2008 Reply

Yep R is restricted. Want to get into movies. You'll need lots of cash for a start and you'll have to start doing some serious networking. PG is for Play Ground. . -Ricky Swanlow Reply

Do you know of any relatives in South Africa? . -Brendan Swanlow - 16/05/2006 Reply

Emil, "Less is more concept/philosophy"? I enjoy minimalism in context. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Yep another tag on film culture. Public offence these days seems to be minimal. Dont know why they bother as you seem to be able to get anything thing you like down at the video shop - internet well theres no holes barred is there? . -Michael Florrmell Reply

Michael, True. But where does art and specifically printmaking go from here? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Printmaking goes back to what it has always been communications eg 2000s tv computors videos film etc. Unlike painting printmaking has the scope to be part of everyones every day life as we all us the above mentioned. Where as painting is like a hobby or study for the few who are interested in painting. In other words if you are a printmaker you are living a normal 21st century life style where if your a painter you are living a 15 th century life style. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, thank you for explaining your personal philosophy, metaphics, ideology and school of thought in relation to printmakers of today. As a printmaker/artist, I have always felt inferior to artists whom paint with oil on canvas. I'm glad I'm not trying to relive a passae' "HOBBY" art form. It is now again, time for printmakers of all mediums to reclaim what the "status quo commercial" Jurassic Park Hobbistists have stolen from us. How does this reclaimation take place? Suggestions? . -Michael Zschech Reply

There will be no reclaim on printmaking in the commercial sector as we are already practicing in it as printmakers. See your daily life timetable as proof of this and just keep on keeping. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, surely there's something to reclaim. Why don't we invent something to reclaim as I feel there should be more to all this. Selah! Looking at my current daily timetable, I think I must have an obsessive, compulsive, printmaking, disorder, syndrome gene. I must discuss this with my psychiatrist. . -Michael Zschech Reply

You are right there is a lot to reclaim but it has to start with printmakers themselves. For a start no more bury your head in the sand printmakers. It is our claim that of the mass media and we must start to use it. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, I want to reclaim back from the "performance artists", what was slowly stolen from the "visual artists" a few decades ago. That is equal attention, support and promotion in Australia. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Yep stolen space but who needs a place where administators tell artists what to do. Reclaim the streets and do your performance there. The Gallery is dead until some one hands it back to the artists again. And I dont see that happening in our life time. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Oh what a joy lots of fun going on here. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Rona, Wonderful art work. Is that a "Wondjanna" on the left side of your image? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Oh yeah space men and dream time kind of does gell together if you think about it. See Umberto Ecos Travels in Hyper Reality. Wax Musuems maybe thats what we need as a representation of our history. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, Where do I get to see Umberto Ecos Travels in Hyper Reality? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Its a book and very funny is Umberto. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

message for michael zschech: na, my space man is just a plain old visitor from sirius. he is part of the multiverse 10 pin bowling league. new members welcome. (it first came to attention via kenya ...) . -rona green Reply

Rona, (still love your work more than ever). Sirius, how do I get there? Whom are the members of the 10 pin bowling club? Name them. What's been currently happening with black bags in Kenya? Explain more. . -Michael Zschech Reply

I would like to know what is in Black Bags in Kenya. Sounds gruesommmmmm but then it could be all the white media telling me it is out of hand etc. Please inform me as soon as possible . -Julie Reply

Julie, I waiting to. . -Michael Zschech Reply

patience michael - the visitors from sirius have already been here and will return - BE READY for the ride of your life. You ask of the members of the club - they who cannot be named ... stay outside tunnel realities. Is a name, in itself, really of any consequence? Black Rubber Bag is native of Germany NOT Kenya as has been assumed ... remember NEVER assume. ALWAYS stay tuned. . -rona green Reply

Rona,I thought I had a lot going on! . -Michael Zschech Reply

Rona, you can't be sirius! . -Rob Reply

Germany did well in the world cup but would never have beat Brazil. So they went home empty bagged. Thats Black Bagged hahahaha hooo. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

point taken michael! but i am more concerned with what is going on under rather than over ground ... black rubber bag (native of germany) is now obsolete ... allegedly to be replaced by a a product from flanders. my work now becomes a homage to the germ. i await further transmission from the stars ... . -rona green Reply

Rona, Travelling past Monoceros towards Rigel then towards Lepus and over to Canis major I have sited the trouble spot. Yes, the visitors have returned. . -Michael Zschech Reply

there has been a sighting in Iceland ... perhaps it's on way to the British Isles ... i have the stars in my eyes and am ready for take off . -Rona Reply

Art in the 70's was good you could make money out of anything for a start. Love and Peace and all kinds of hippy stuff. 70's retro may come back one more time but personally I hope it's over. Bad enough the 1990's retro disco bad enough retro still good fun work. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Jane, You are giving me a heart attack while I look at your art work. Cuts very close to the bone, especially if that was your own generation. Do more. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Jayne I think you should calm down your work is much to much. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, What do you suggest - ICE? . -Michael Zschech Reply

I have change my mind this work is not busy enough. Jane go a bit more over board with your work which fab. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, That over board theme keeps reappearing in all current media especially around Christmas Island reefs. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Stop in the name of love unless you want to brake my heart. Great work 3d and lots going on. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

The work of art by nardia jelly monstar "Untitled" impress upon me an image of someone closing the door on another love chapter! sydney nsw . -linda hogan Reply

Nardia, Good para messages! . -Michael Zschech Reply

A big heart is a pounding for love . -RIchy Rich Reply

Richy, Is that a red symbolic hand saying "STOP"? . -Michael Zschech Reply

The hand is kind of like a calma stop and think about it kind of love thing. Maybe something more like in India or somewhere more Kalmer. . -Richy rich Reply

Richy, (India?). Ganesh-Laxmi-Saraswati, find someone else's face to slap publically to make yourself feel more powerful. But with your 3 other imagionary arms, fix yourself up, don't expect others to do your dirty, smelly work for you Miss Ganesh-Laxmi-Saraswati. . -Michael Zschech Reply

India the land of Soma stay Kalmer. Everything will be ok if you can stay kalmer. I thought she had ten arms each side shows how much I know. . -Julie Reply

Julie, I want to learn more also. Keep commenting. . -Michael Zschech Reply

i was looking for an high school sweetheart by the name of nardia and i came across this artwork. its kinda weird coz im a traffic cop and here is a very definite sign that maybe i should stop looking, or a sign that maybe she never stopped loving me. . -jim morris Reply

A very touching comment Jim. Men keep feeling their love for years and years. Be careful, women don't seem to do the same. . -Paul Reply

The cow needs to be milked. . - Reply

Will someone please milk this cow for the love of animal liberation. . - Reply

Its not worth the time to milk the cow any more. The economic purists have come to the dairy industry so the price of milk is free to go up in shops and down to farmers so dairy farms close up and the price will go up even more. And it makes not one wit of difference to our pure economists whether our children drink milk or pepsi. No doubt in 60 years some genius will announce that it's cheaper to subsidise milk for children than have the health system deal with a lot of frail older people. Regan and Thatcher are long gone but the influence of the selfish narrow minded greedy ideals founded during those times just keeps getting stronger. . -Paul Somerset Reply

what about (all)the bull.Surely the male pair would be a large brahmin.Males r always allowed to get away w more personal "quirks"-or is that coz females see thru rosetintglasses more? As usual all the details r wonderful.Even the clouds r geographically accurate for all their quirkiness.Onwards ever upwards-Semper altiora.Beautifully simply put!!! . -valkyrie Reply

Male and Female gender issues are only as large as the individual who is worried about them. See your doctor for advise. Everyone is looking through rosetinted glasses these days gender don't count. One for all all for one is the only way. . -Ricky Swallowed Reply

Michael, I think this is a brilliant etching; even though I still think of all of the "B" cows I had to help milk as I was growing up. Intelligent humor. . -Michael Zschech Reply

If we didnt have cows and bulls then we would not have to have the amount of grazing land which is a waste of natural bush land. Give the cows away to Engalnd and give us back our forests. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, How can this be organised? Do you have a plan? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Put them on a boat and ship them back to once they came. PS eat more tofu grow more trees etc. . -Richy Rich Reply

I've got a block of tofu that Michael Florrimell left in my fridge last July. You can have it if you want. . -Rob Reply

Rob, don't waist that block of tofu, press it in an Easter Egg mould, set it in the fridge again, stick it on the end of a blue gum stick, roast it over an open fire, and you've got "MOCK", roast, bullie calve's testicle. Who needs cows in your life, continually mooing in your ears anyway?. Richy, a good place to make cows start swimming back to their homeland is from River Heads, QLD, towards Frazer Island, as the sharks in that area already are trained up to eat more beef, as many of the cattle barges bringing cattle back from eating out Frazer Island, sunk. The cattle fed on Frazer Island, rainforest nutrition were either eaten by sharks or washed up on the mainland beaches. They were became twice their size, if they ended up as getsumn on a mainland beach. Not to be kicked or poked with a stick because of internal "death" gas. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Eh?? What about the fossil fuel industry furfy about farting cows. (Oh you know one third of greenhouse gasses are produced by cows farting) . -Rob Reply

Thank god some one has mentioned the green house gasses, cars and cows they do have something in common. Yes send the cows back to Frazer Irland. . -Julie Reply

Julie, we've now got lots of sharks in Sydney Harbour as well. Maybe we could start swimming them from Lunar Park out towards the Heads. How many truck loads per day should we be able to move? Of course we should sell tickets to watch the up close shark feeding sessions. This could become a really big thing. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Just stop growing cows and bulls for humans to abuse. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, where are the "Holy Cows" of Australia hiding from all the abuse? Kashmir? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Maybe the cow is symbolic? . -violated Reply

hope u r enjoying your life have fun b happy do something crazy u may have fun . -tony Reply

Lots of love and fishs and flowers. Fantastic print of lino cut colour and detail. The happyness in Wannees work is in over abundance rich in patterns and from the heart. . -Michael Reply

Wannee, This is a beautiful art work with so much detail in it. I hope you do lots more. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Wannee tell us about your pretty work. . -Julie Reply

Julie, I want Wannee to also explain the deep, meaningful, intellectual and philosophical side to this art work. For example are the two fish in love or are they just exchanging the care for their babies, from mouth crib to mouth crib as some fish do? Or is this about eating more fish, as it is considered a brain food. Just what is going on here? . -Michael Zschech Reply

I dont think we are meant to know what is goin on here. I think we all know what is happening, then proven wrong. Not trying to be a sourpuss, welll maybe I am. Following the right path doesnt always lead in the right direction. However the journey is what should be more interesting. Scungy lanes arent always scary. . -sbt Reply

i like this one exceeeellllent mort they all should . -silver Reply

I never noticed before how much puckerd up lips resemble the anal sphincter. . -Paul Somerset Reply

You know the lips can distinguish between solid, liquid and gas. And selectivly expel which ever they want. The anal sphincter can only distinguish between solid and gas. It gets a bit confused distinguishing between solid/liquid or gas/liquid. If nature wasn't such a bungler it could have installed the full lip set at each end of the alimentry canal, saved on the need for an asshole gene and at the same time eliminated a major contributary factor of brown underwear syndrome. You know - when you think it is a straight forward fart but .... . -Rob Reply

the question should be then whos sphinc... silver . -silver Reply

Lips are for kissen ya fools so stop all the talk about arse holes. Gee some people are just carnal in nature. Talk about love in all the right places and the right reasons and you may start to get some love in return. . -Ricky Swallowed Reply

Richy -right reasons? right places? Yes now that I look at this work again, I think that is important for kisses/kissers.But to get there can sometimes be trying. I remember I kissed someone once and he screamed loudly against it/then I screamed from that/ then the neighbours almost screamed...but the funny thing is I'd still kiss again. Passage of time makes resolve and things clearer.Except on the subject of this work where the artist put kiiss my ass- without the right sort of kisses I find my art practise lacking collaborative chemistry almost disappears up my own effete butt.Who do you think I should be then kissing Richy? Maybe even you? How is that possible? . -Valkyrie Reply

Ricky you're spooky.Keep smiling.I am.Just the thought should send shivers down our spines-someone brave n sexy at the same time.And the kiss rule-keeping it simple.N colours can say a lot. . -valkyrie Reply

Mort, I think each person should take responsibility for kissing their own arse, instead of expecting others to do it for them. It's called personal self empowerment as opposed to the "brown noseing" nepotism strategy. I think I know where you are coming from though! Very "cheeky"! . -Michael Zschech Reply

There seems to be to much arse kissing going on in Sydney town. Stop the dramas and talk some sence people dont really want to be running around in circles. Say what you mean or don't say anything. . -Richy Rich Reply

Richy, Possibly there is a lot of A.K. and dramas going on in Sydney Town but I really haven't noticed any of it because I don't go looking for it. But now that it has been bought to my attention - I still can't see it. Then when I looked at this image again (with sun glasses on), it changed to many tones and shades of PURPLE. Only then did this print have current relevant meaning for me. Remember Andy Warhole? . -Michael Zschech Reply

Yes I did do a lot of silkscreens of famous people in different shades. . -Andy Warhole Reply

There's a great Warhole, Jersy cow head silkscreen print for sale in a local gallery. They only want $16,000.00 for it. Any takers? . -Michael Zschech Reply

A great investment Art is as good as old even better sometimes as far as making money goes. Just make sure you buy investment Art though. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, I have been collecting art/prints that I love , nothing to do with investment, SORT OF HEART/GUT LOVE for now not the future, but I believe they will become the Margaret Prestion/Andy Wharhole print investments of the the future. Look and buy all 1950's prints from any antique/junk shop that you can. $10.00 to $75.00, you should pay (framed). Expect to re-sell in the future for much more. Select your 1950's printmaker artists though, some are exceptionally relevant more than others. . -Michael Zschech Reply

Forget buying prints just exchange it with all the other exciting artists at Exchange Partners in Print. Our first portfolios are now worth over $2000. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, I'll take up your suggestion. Sounds much more interresting than doing the junk/antique shops over. . -Michael Zschech Reply

You will have a fine portfolio of prints coming your way in October. . -Michael Florrimell Reply

Michael, looking forward to it. I'm currently organising wall space to immediately put them all on. . -Michael Zschech Reply